WHO BEAT WHO?
TALES FROM THE AMATEURS
(Part Four)
An excerpt from "The Iceman Diaries"
by
"ICEMAN' JOHN SCULLY

The Olympic trials are held every four years to decide who
will represent the U.S. in the Olympic Games. The tournament consists of eight
boxers in each weight class who box each other for the Olympic Trials
championship and a spot on the U.S. team. The winner, however, does not
automatically go straight to the Olympics but, rather, he must defend his title
against the most noteworthy challenger as designated by the U.S. Olympic
Committee. They box each other once and if the defending champion wins then he
advances to the Olympic Games. If he loses on that first day, however, they have
to come back the next day and do it again. Whoever wins that match represents
the U.S. in Olympic competition.
Several well-known U.S. Olympic Team members, including eventual Olympic gold
medalists, have been forced to qualify in this manner, including Evander
Holyfield, Riddick Bowe and Montell Griffin. Eventual Olympic Gold medalists who
didn't win the Trials and had to win two bouts in two tries to qualify at the
last minute include Meldrick Taylor (1984), Jerry Page (1984) and Andrew Maynard
(1988).
Holyfield had to score two decisions over the Kronk gym's Ricky Womack, Bowe had
to get by the U.S. Army's Robert Salters twice, Griffin had to overcome future
“Contender” TV series trainer Jeremy Williams two times, Taylor had to best
Oregon's Andrew Minsker, Page had to overcome Louisiana's Timmy Rabon and Andrew
had to overthrow future IBF cruiserweight champion Al "Ice" Cole to make the
1988 Olympic Team.
MARK BRELAND
Mark Breland scored a first-round stoppage of future super middleweight world
title challenger Ron Essett in 1983. In the 1984 U.S. Olympic Trials, in a
highly anticipated bout, Breland scored a first-round knockout over future
three-time National Golden Gloves Champion Mylon Watkins that was described to
me by 1984 Olympic Gold Medalist Jerry Page like this:
“It was like a laser beam came out of the sky and hit Watkins in the head.”
Breland had a devastating right hand, that's for sure, and that fact was never
more evident than in his 1982 match with Pedro Estrada in the New York City
Golden Gloves welterweight final when Mark scored a right-hand knockout of Pedro
that culminated with Estrada standing up at the spot where he landed OUT OF THE
RING and started throwing punches, thinking the fight was still going on.
In the New York City Golden Gloves tournament from 1980 right on through 1984
Mark scored stoppage victories in each years championship bout over the likes of
Angel Garcia (1980), Jose Martinez (1981), Estrada (1982), Rodney Bowen (1983)
and Victor Laguer (in a 1984 finals match shown on ABC's Wide World of Sports).
Mark scored many other good victories in the early ‘80s including a decision
over future IBF junior welterweight champion Frankie "Panchito" Warren at the
USA/ABF Nationals.
MIKE TYSON
“Iron” Mike Tyson, then just 16 years old and known to fans at the Holyoke Boys
Club as “The Tank”, won the heavyweight title at our local Golden Gloves
tournament, the Western Massachusetts Golden Gloves, back in February of 1983
with a first-round stoppage in the finals over Jimmy Johnson of Springfield.
The February 14, 1983 edition of the Springfield Morning-Union newspaper
described the bout:
“The Western Mass. heavyweight representative next week is Mike Tyson, a
nationally ranked amateur from Albany who kayoed Jimmy Johnson of the
Springfield YMCA at 2:35 of the third round.
“The game Johnson, clearly less ringwise than his veteran opponent, took a hard
shot to the head just before the fighters were about to fall into a clinch. He
crumpled to the floor and referee Matt Mullaney, seeing Johnson was in big
trouble, halted the bout.”
Mike's victory over Johnson qualified him to advance to the New England Golden
Gloves tournament of Champions in Lowell where he scored a semi-final stoppage
win over Lowell's James Bisson.
“One guy who should turn pro tomorrow is Mike Tyson, a super heavyweight who at
just 16 years of age has National Championship potential. He is an absolute
monster in the ring as Lowell's Jimmy Bisson found out last night when the
Holyoke fighter staggered him early in the round with short uppercuts then kept
after him until the referee stopped the bout 42 seconds into the first round.
His fight with James Rayburn should be worth the price of admission tonight.
Rayburn, who puts the super in super heavyweight had his face painted with his
own blood by Eugene Williams of Southern New England before turning into a tiger
in the third round, chasing and pounding Williams all over the ring as the crowd
went crazy. He became a cult figure in six minutes. Rayburn brought back
memories of Harold ‘Mountain Man’ Rice to some although one fan likened him to
the Humphrey character in the old Joe Palooka comic strip. Either way, though,
he'll have his hands full with Tyson tonight.” – Lowell Sun, February, 1983
Mike wasn't able to take part in what would have easily been the most
anticipated match of the tournament when he won the NEGG title by walkover after
Rayburn was forced to pull out of the fight due to an injury received in his own
semi-final match the night before.
The Lowell Sun carried this recap the following day:
“Tyson won by default over Jim Rayburn of Vermont and that was probably a good
thing for Rayburn because Tyson is a buzzsaw who, although he has only had 12
amateur bouts (according to his trainers), looks like a legitimate national
championship contender this year.”
Mike subsequently was disqualified from the New England team before they went to
the nationals, however, because as a resident of Catskill, N.Y. he was not able
to represent Lowell and New England in a national tournament (just as Rochester,
New York resident Charles “The Natural” Murray would be disqualified in 1986 for
the same reason after he captured the N.E. 139-pound title with decision
victories over Mike Culbert and Pat Ireland).
Tyson did capture a National Golden Gloves title the following year, though,
while representing New York State (Syracuse) on his way to the 201-pound crown.
And, for what it is worth, I have often read people say that “Mike Tyson didn't
excel as an amateur because he had too much of a pro style” and they point to
his two losses at the 1984 U.S. Olympic Trials to Henry Tillman as some kind of
proof of this. They say that “amateur scoring didn't suit him,” etc., but what
people need to realize is that not only was Tyson a highly accomplished amateur
boxer but it is also likely a thing where the average person doesn't truly have
any idea at all what Tyson had to go through just to even get to that Olympic
team deciding fight with Tillman in 1984.
First of all, Tyson was a two-time National Junior Olympic Champion, a National
Golden Gloves Champion (1984) and an Ohio State Fair champion (in 1983) who on
the way to these and other titles defeated standout amateur boxers such as
Jonathon Littles (twice by stoppage), Jerry Goff, Kilbert "Junior" Pierce, Derek
Isaman, Orbit Pough, Warren Thompson, Avery Rawls, Olian Alexander, Henry
Milligan, and Winston Bent (who stopped Littles, Pough, Goff and Milligan). Add
in the fact that Mike also scored a decision over top European (and world rated)
Hakan Brock and you have quite the impressive resume.
Those accomplishments and victories certainly signify a stellar amateur career
(that he put together in an era when national competition was particularly
fierce) and the revealing of such should put to rest any notion that Tyson
somehow “wasn't a good amateur fighter.”
OTHER TIDBITS
* “Irish” Micky Ward lost a close decision at the 1983 USA/ABF Nationals to
future WBO 140-pound champion Zack Padilla. Padilla also scored a decision
victory over future IBF 154-pound Champion Vincent Pettway in the same
tournament and eventually won the top spot with a championship night victory
over highly touted Kronk boxer Roderick Moore to take the 139-pound title.
* The 1976 U.S. Olympic Trials saw future heavyweight champions Michael Dokes
and John Tate meet up in the semi-finals with Tate capturing the decision
(reversing an earlier loss to Dokes) on his way to representing the United
States at the Olympic Games that year (where he lost to the legend in the making
that was Teofilo Stevenson of Cuba). Dokes, meanwhile, scored a 1976 National
Golden Gloves decision victory over another fellow future heavyweight champion
in Greg Page.
* As young Junior Olympians (aged 15 and under), future middleweight world
champion Michael Nunn defeated future lightweight contender Charlie “White
Lightning” Brown three times (Charlie told me this himself when we were in camp
together in Glenwood Springs, Colorado in 1993). Nunn also scored a 1983
decision at the National Sports Festival in the 156-pound class over future
world champ Frank Tate (Tate also defeated Nunn as an amateur in another bout
while, as professionals, Nunn took the IBF 160-pound title from Frank in the
summer of 1988)
* Vinny Pazienza won the 1981 National Sports Festival crown with a decision at
132 pounds over future (1984) U.S. Olympic Trials Champion Timmy Rabon (Rabon
won the trials but then lost the 1984 Olympic spot at 139 pounds via a box-off
to eventual gold medalist Jerry Page of Columbus, Ohio).
* Back in the second half of the 1990s (maybe 1996 and 1997), probably at 132
pounds, future WBC light heavyweight champion “Bad” Chad Dawson and future
junior welterweight contender Dmitriy “The Star of David” Salita met up in
regional tournaments on two occasions with Dawson winning decisions both times.
Dawson also scored an upset (at the time) in his very first open class bout (as
a 16 year old) over the already well established Connecticut boxer and current
rising professional welterweight prospect (18 years old at the time) Delvin
Rodriguez.
* Future undisputed welterweight champion Corey Spinks (then known as Corey
Calvin) won the 1997 National PAL welterweight title with a decision victory in
the finals over future (2000) U.S. Olympian Dante Craig.
* The 1988 National Junior Olympic tournament saw Oscar De La Hoya win a
decision at 132 pounds over future lightweight contender Lamar Murphy
* In the 1980 U.S. Amateur National Championships Johnny “Bump City” Bumphus
beat both Ronnie Shields and Harry Arroyo.
* Future NABF Middleweight Champion Fabian Williams scored a third-round
stoppage over future WBO-175 pound challenger (to Darius Michelczewski) Kady
King (a.k.a. Vernez Duskin) at the 1987 National Golden Gloves in Knoxville. (I
was there for this one. I was actually fighting Kermit Cain in the center ring
at the nationals and between rounds of my fight I glanced over at the
Williams-King fight just in time to see Fabian landing the final punches that
brought the fight to a close).
* Lawrence Clay-Bey won two of three bouts with “Baby” Joe Mesi including a
crushing one-round knockout in the Olympic Box-Off in 1996. Clay-Bey also scored
an impressive stoppage over the favored Lance Whitaker in 1995 and a stoppage
victory over current undefeated heavyweight Faruq Saleem.
* Paul “The Ultimate” Vaden scored an amateur win over his fellow future IBF
154-pound world champion Raul Marquez in 1988 and lost a decision to Chris Byrd
in 1989.
* Montreal, Canada's former WBO middleweight champion Otis "Magic" Grant
defeated over one hundred opponents during the course of his celebrated amateur
career including future world title challengers Dan Sherry, Egerton Marcus and
Duran Williams. Grant stopped Williams in the first round of their bout at the
1987 Pan-American Games before losing in the finals to legendary Cuban Angel
Espinosa. Otis also scored a very big win in an international tournament over in
Germany in late 1987 over top flight American Kevin Bryant.
Less than two months after he beat Bryant I scored a decision over Otis at an
international show held in Montreal and then a few months after that, in the
fight to decide Canada's representative at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul, Otis lost
in a rematch to Egerton Marcus. Egerton then went on to capture a silver medal
in those Olympics, losing a decision in the finals to future IBF light
heavyweight champion Henry Maske.
* Park Si-Hun, the Korean who “won” the Olympic gold medal in 1988 despite being
thoroughly trounced in the final by Roy Jones, Jr. had two other interesting
victories of note against American amateurs. In the 1985 World Cup tournament
final, where victory allowed him to walk away with the #1 world ranking, Si-Hun
was on the receiving end of two eight-counts against highly regarded American
Kevin Bryant just as he was against Roy but still came away with the decision (I
didn't see the fight so I don't know if it was actually a robbery or not). Also,
in 1987, Si-Hun scored a decision over future contender Thomas Tate.
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