WHO BEAT WHO?
TALES FROM THE AMATEURS
(Part Seven)
An excerpt from "The Iceman Diaries"
by
"ICEMAN' JOHN SCULLY

The 1980 U.S. Olympic Trials saw future contender Rockin'
Robin Blake beat Joe Manley in the quarterfinals at 132 pounds before losing in
the semis to future 140-pound champ Frankie "The Surgeon" Randall.
The 1997 World Junior Olympic Championships in Mexico City, Mexico (15-16 age
division) saw Ricardo Williams win a clean decision over Puerto Rico’s former
two-division title holder Miguel Cotto. Williams did not lose a whole lot of
fights as an amateur – that much we know. However, one guy who he beat – in a
VERY disputed and controversial decision – was future (2004) U.S. Olympian Rock
Allen of Philly at the ‘97 National PAL.
Cotto, meanwhile, defeated Francisco Bojado in the 132-pound finals of the 1999
Cheo Aponte Tournament in Puerto Rico.
The 1986 super heavyweight final at the New York City Golden Gloves saw two
future contenders match up with Lou Savarese taking a decision over Alex
Stewart. At the 2000 NYCGG tournament future WBA welterweight titlist Luis
Collazo matched up with future 154-pound contender Yuri Foreman and came away
with a decision victory at 147 pounds.
In the light heavyweight finals of the 1979 New England Golden Gloves tournament
in Lowell, Mass. its two participants were among the best boxers in the entire
nation and it ended with Hartford's Kelvin Anderson winning a hard fought
decision over New Bedford, Massachusetts’ Andre McCoy to qualify for the 1979
national tournament.
Both Anderson and McCoy had been successful internationally as members of Team
USA and were both considered to have realistic chances at making the 1980 U.S.
Olympic Boxing Team. Sadly, neither boxer would get the chance to try as they
were both members of the U.S. Boxing Team that perished less than a year later
on a plane that crashed en route to an international meet in Poland, tragically
killing all passengers.
(A statue of a "fallen boxer" dedicated to the entire team stands on display on
the grounds of the U.S. Olympic training center in Colorado Springs, Colorado.)
I was recently looking through an old issue of the AMATEUR BOXER MAGAZINE that
covered the 1987 Ohio State Fair Nationals. In it, the complete results of
championship night were printed. I won the 165-pound Open division title by
decision over future heavyweight contender Melvin Foster and quality boxers like
furute 112- and 115-pound champ Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson, Vernez Duskin (aka
Kady King) and future 122-pound champ Clarence “Bones” Adams winning titles,
too. One thing I never noticed before, though, was that in the 139-pound senior
JO division, future cruiserweight contender Ravea Springs won a championship
night decision over the guy I defeated in my last professional fight, Cleveland
Nelson of Detroit.
At the 1996 World Junior Olympic tournament, future 108-pound titlist Brian
Viloria scored a decision over one-time Sugar Ray Leonard protege' Bernard Dunne
of Ireland.
One of the greatest pure boxers in history, Howard Davis Jr., defeated future
world champions Hilmer Kenty, Aaron Pryor and Tommy "Hitman" Hearns in the
1970's on his way to Olympic Gold in 1976. Hearns, meanwhile, won the 1977
National Golden Gloves tournament and defeated future 140-pound contender (and
high profile trainer) Ronnie Shields along the way to do so.
In 1993, future cruiserweight contender Don Diego Poeder sore an RSC (stoppage)
victory over future heavyweight champ Wladimir Klitscko while in 1990, Oleg
Maskaev turn the same trick against big brother Vitali.
The 1972 U.S. Olympic Trials saw future heavyweight champion Larry Holmes
knocked down with a right hand on his way to losing by disqualification to Duane
Bobick while the 1973 National AUU championships saw Randy Shields defeat Sugar
Ray Leonard on his way to the 139-pound crown.
Heavyweight Duane Bobick not only won that fight over Holmes, but he also beat
future WBA heavyweight champ Mike Weaver by decision in 1969, and defeated
legendary Cuban Teofilo Stevenson on a unanimous decision in 1971.
Bobick was also stopped twice as an amateur, once by future contender Ron Lyle
in 1970 and also once by Stevenson in a rematch that took place at the 1972
Olympics.
The 1971 New York City Golden Gloves tournament saw future light heavyweight
champion Eddie Gregory (aka Eddie Mustafa Muhammad) win a decision over future
middleweight champion Vito Antuefermo in the 147-pound final.
Rocky Marciano, as you all know, ended up 49 and ZERO as a professional
champion. In the amateur ranks, though, at the Eastern Regional Golden Gloves
tournament in 1948, he lost an opening bout decision to Coley Wallace of New
York City, making Coley a famous footnote in the annals of boxing history along
with at least two other men who reportedly beat the Rock (Bob Girard and Joe
DiAngelis).
In his autobiography "Sugar Ray," Ray Robinson tells of an amateur bout that saw
him lose a close decision to future professional contender Billy Graham.
Muhammad Ali (then, obviously, known as Cassius Clay) split a few childhood
bouts at different weights and ages with fellow future heavyweight champion
Jimmy Ellis back in the 1950s while another eventual 1960 gold medalist (and
future M.D.), Wilbert "Skeeter" McClure, defeated Ellis in the finals of the
1960 U.S. Olympic Trials in the middleweight class.
And, FINALLY, in what might be the most interesting – yet little known – amateur
boxing result in the history of the game, a decision was rendered in my hometown
of Connecticut (in either Norwich or Thompsonville, depending on who you talk
to) after a three-round bout back in the late 1930s (1938?), that is truly the
stuff of legend.
In an over the weight matchup that featured two future all-time greats
(legitimate legends) of the professional game – two men who would go on to win
over 400 professional fights between them – Willie Pep and Sugar Ray Robinson
battled each other as teenagers in a three-round bout that saw Robinson come
away with a decision victory over his fellow future Hall Of Famer.
Note: Both Pep and Robinson referred to the match in detail in their respective
autobiographies (Pep's "Friday's Heroes" and Robinson's "Sugar Ray").
Imagine what a videotape of those two going at it as amateurs would fetch among
memorabilia collectors today? Actually, when you think of it, how crazy would it
be to actually have a tape of fights like Jones-McClellan, Gregory-Antuefermo,
or Leonard-Kenty?? I know that a tape exists of the Pryor-Hearns fight because I
have it.
I also know that with the dawn of handheld cameras, camera phones and the like,
now more than ever I see fans filming amateur fights at national tournaments so
in years to come it will likely be a thing where amateur fights of this caliber
will be easily accessible on YouTube and other public video websites.
Let's hope so.
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"The wait in the dressing room before a professional boxing match -that last hour- could be enough to strip a man that never boxed before of whatever pride, desire and heart he thought he had."
- 'Iceman' John Scully, April 2002